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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:20:44 -
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I had thought about it, but nah. I expect that system to be a total nightmare to navigate for at least the first couple of months. Granted, it will be extremely...vibrant, but I am actually somewhat concerned that it won't get the chance to blossom into it's full potential. See, a trade hub isn't a trade hub, unless there's stuff there actually worth buying and using. I pity the first few thousand ships that try to get anything in or out.
Just imagine Jita...with bubbles. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 17:58:36 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Ka'Narlist wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:if indeed a Jita without Concord can be controlled by one entity?
Jita means a major trade hub where everyone and their mother brings their stuff to sell it. How do you think this will happen in a system where everyone is ganking everyone? A couple of reasons: 1: Apparently due to sheer incredible size, and quite possibly new system mechanics, it will be difficult if not impossible to lock the system down. Too huge, too many ways in and out. 2: It's connected to... literally... everywhere. Depending on how this is handled it could be the most convenient market hub in all of New Eden. While it does have those things going for it, I don't see it developing into much more than some glorified NPC null space. Sure, some people will live there, but overall, I can't see even a moderate number of people wanting to actually base out of it. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:16:16 -
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Ranger 1 wrote: Fair enough, but I'm surprised the major alliances are taking a keen interest in having a base of operations that has very easy static connections to empire, as well as a steady stream of wormholes to everywhere... especially considering the new limitations in play that limit fleet movement via Titan bridge.
It would be entirely too easy for an alliance to get their assets camped into such a place. There's a reason that NPC null is either used only for deployments, or as a last resort when all sov is lost. Granted, the recent removal of hobojamming makes this only slightly more difficult, it's still far from impossible. Anyone with enemies could very quickly find themselves hellcamped into that station. It makes far more sense to just use your own sov space, and take full advantage of wormholes within your regions of control. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:44:45 -
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Ranger 1 wrote: Fair points, although a few other factors may come into play.
We don't know how many stations will be in Thera. Considering the sheer size of the system there could be a LOT.
We don't know what the system mechanics will be like, frankly at this point we don't even know if bubbles will work there. All we know is that CCP doesn't seem to think that moving ships and materials in and out of system will be difficult (or at least not impossible), and that station camping doesn't appear to worry them overly much either... which might indicate that these "unique" and unannounced system mechanics (or environmental peculiarities if you prefer) will make such activities much more difficult.
If trade and manufacturing can flourish there, one would think that a military presence could as well.
We really won't know a lot until we get facts on:
Where the static wormholes end up. How many statics there are. How many wandering wormholes show up, and how often. How big the system is How many NPC stations are there, and how far apart. What are the new and unique environmental factors in play.
Absolutely. I think that all of these question marks are a big reason that you won't see many (if any) organized groups making plans for it just yet. I would assume that more details will be divulged as we get closer to the release. If that ends up not being the case though, the only "mad rush" into that system that I expect to see, is a bunch of CovOps and cloaky/nullified T3s poking around in there for the first week or two. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.11 18:50:19 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Probably all buying up offices and making bookmarks. Precisely. If the size of the system is anything like what I am imagining, a scanner nerd who knows how to short warp could easily spend a few days amusing him/herself just making tacticals, safes, and a few navigation routes through it. |
Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.11.12 14:04:04 -
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Fortunately for everyone, it's looking like the groups who have enough manpower to even try to lock down a system like Thera, have no interest in doing so.
Yet, anyway. |
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